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Ooo, they look interesting.
One site said maybe thick liquid or powder from the hole spoon into the cross spoon and then the shapes could be interpreted in the context of the four quarters to denote time, moon phases or stages of life.
I think it’s as good an idea of what they were as any (unless they’re making absinthe, which I doubt *grin*). To me, with divination, I genuinely think one could use anything if it works for you. So to me, it doesn’t matter if that’s what they were ‘really’ for – we’ll likely never know – but if it helps someone tap in, then go for it. I find this stuff endlessly fascinating, so thanks for that.
I’ll look at the spoons post, sounds interesting.
I’ve been lucky to be able to spend a lot of time in our local woodland during the course, there’s nothing like it, it’s been key to all of it for me. I used to do so much more herbalism, mostly teas and poultices, but this is years ago, and I’ve really neglected that, I think. It’s strange, it used to be daily stuff for me then, time to get back into it, I reckon.
I have mostly used runes from the elder Futhark for divination and ritual use, and I like them, they’re comfy. I made a set of ogham staves all from an ash twig I found and the carving is SHOCKINGLY bad, but they are starting to feel a lot more ‘me’.
I have rosemary and mint in pots in the back yard, I’ve spent a lot of time in there just cleaning it up and starting to grow bits of things, got a compost heap and a bug habitat going over summer.
Glad you’re enjoying the journey 🙂 I am, too.
It’s nice to see you, we crossed paths on the bardic course. I’d checked out this forum at the start of the course, but I’m not a natural internetter, so finding not much up, I haven’t been on here. I see this post is a few months old, but I might catch you belatedly 🙂
I’ve been loving the ovate course. The meditations have been really deep, and I like the way it’s put together.
I just finished reading/working with the last set of booklets, and I’m looking forward to revisiting some of the bardic booklets, and getting everything bedded together, as it were.
I also found the Mabinogion on the Audible app, a lovely telling, which has brought it all so much to life.
Weirdly for me, I find I’m still mostly processing everything as poetry – I thought I’d write more songs and stories, as that’s what I’ve done before, but no, it’s all poetry over here.
The Ogham’s grand, it’s taking me some time to tune in to them, but I’ve been doing some ‘what do I need to know?’ readings, which works better for me than specifics at the moment.
I can only describe it as big chunks of lead slabs falling into place, this course – a deeply satisfying echoey clunk. Whichay or may not make sense.
Anyway, grand to see you – how you?
Hi again, Dowrgi.
Yes, lots of different traditions, and I kind of mis-spoke when I characterised myself as ‘wiccan’. It’s an easier terminology, but I really don’t do high ritual, and as such my reply might seem disingenuous. I do a lot of pathworking, and trying to work within the Will of a greater spirit, rather than moulding parts of the universe to my will, so I really don’t ‘qualify’ as any specific traditional at the moment. I’m basically a folklore/earth/circle-ritual borderline pagan with a penchant for runes and crone goddesses. Oh, and moonlight. But I love how druidry brings much needed sun/masculine energy in, and my creativity has been wonderfully tickled by the Awen, which is lovely.
Just wanted to chime in, really.
Re: reincarnation – I reckon. I think we see echoes of past lives, I really do. It’s something I work with/on.
I’ve long considered myself a pagan, and have practised wiccan rites as a solo practitioner. The casting of circle and calling the quarters is practically identical to the rite described in the course material. The difference for me was adding the three realms to the quaters. I’ve always started at North, as well, the darkness before birth/dawn rather than East, but recently I’m shifting that. I’ve never called on a familiar or sought to be possessed by a spirit, but each to their own. The Lord and Lady of Wicca personify the male and female divine, many witches have particular deities they identify with within that. And anyone thinking witches are satanic is wrong, and I have never really cared what ‘mainstream’ thinks. It’s really just an Earth based animistic tradition, just as druidry is. That’s how I do it anyway.
That’s strange, they usually reply pretty quickly. I don’t have any help on what to do, other than what you’re already doing, but just wanted to respond so that at least you’d no someone’s out there, even if it’s just another student! Hope you get it resolved soon.
Hah! Good to know, Dowrgi. Thanks.
Bennathow, lovely link, and a cracking verse 🙂 I love words, and story. Clarissa Pinkola Estes has a poem called ‘commenting before the poem’ which is glorious – it follows the poem back from the saying to the making of the ink, the birth and conception of the poet, their ancestors… It’s lovely.
David, I have no idea who my tutor is, and I must have overlooked the other stuff – I sent my ‘worry bag’ to an address somewhere. Time is the thing, always will be. Good to ‘see’ you.
Grand. Hope to see your posts soon 🙂
This is the poem I wrote when I read the taster pamphlet for the course.
As I said in my profile, I made trail bread for the first time in ages, and wrote this.
Marry the moon, my child
Marry the Moon, my child, marry the Moon
And soon in twilight’s chill
Frost fills me with longing, still.
Marry the Sun, my child, marry the Sun
And run, your summers free
In joy; River, Stone and Tree
Marry the Earth, my child, marry the Earth
At birth; in blood and bone
Bonded. Together, alone.
Marry the Sky, my child, marry the Sky
And fly; fly, dearest child
Breathless, and cloud-kissed, and wild.
Marry the snow, my child, marry the snow
And go; and merry part;
And merry meet, dearest heart.
Marry the Fire, my child, marry the Fire
Inspire unfettered joy;
Beautiful, my darling boy.
I know it’s rough as a bear’s arse, not looking for ego strokes, I just felt that, as the course material keeps saying we should share our stuff. So I am 🙂
I tend to do more counting the breath at the moment, because I struggle to get my mind to be quiet at the moment. It gets very annoying. I used to meditate on an image of the Buddha years ago, and I used to kind of feel it rather than think it, that helped. But at the moment my mind is just really wild, so I’m trying to just gently keep on, and give myself compassion. I reckon it’s a case of keeping on with the practise and when it clicks, you’ll just know.
I’ve started the course at the end of November.
I don’t journal every day, but what I’m doing with it is writing about the exercises in the course, anything that strikes me on my walks, any bits of poetry, and, to an extent, how I’m feeling on a given day.
I’m also noting impressions from meditations, dreams and stuff.
With the story memorising, I learned two bits from Taliesin – the bit that starts ‘First, I have been formed a comely person…’ which I chose because it’s basically a list, so I learned it by attaching images to numbers like the course material suggests, and the bit ‘primary chief bard am I…’
I have the words, mostly, but can only recite it if I sit dead still with my eyes shut. Heh.
Next I’m working on a freer story, an Inuit story, The Stone Child.
Nice to ‘meet’ you all.
BTW,Daryll, the idea of writing a part of my life story as a Story never occurred to me. That’s really exciting.