- September 29, 2022 at 3:34 pm #15197Richard Hudson-MilesParticipant
I’ve just finished the Story of Taliesin, which I enjoyed far more than I ever thought I would! I was struck by its ending, which seems to prophesise some kind of British reunification. To may eyes, it almost sounds nationalist, which is confusing me, given what I am currently reading about the apparent ethnic diversity of the proto-druids. One thing that is great about this course so far is that it is making me actively research British history, of which I am clearly lacking at the moment.
I wondered what everyone else’s take on the following lines were? Any contextual / historical information would be much appreciated.
Britons then shall have
Their land and their crown,
And the stranger swarm
All the angel’s words,
As to peace and war,
Will be fulfilled
To Britain’s race.”
RichardOctober 7, 2022 at 7:33 pm #15232DowrgiParticipant
This is a vast topic indeed, I’ll try to be as brief as I can. 😀
First and foremost, there are two ‘Taliesins’, at least in terms of literary history and historiography. We have the Taliesin of the 6th century and whose works deal with the trials and tribulations of the Hen Ogledd (The Old North) and so on, and then we have the ‘Taliesin’ of a later Mediaeval period, around the 12th century. It seems that Welsh bards may have adopted the persona, perhaps even ‘channelled’ Taliesin, so to speak, in producing some of the works that have been attributed to the famous bard. What you have quoted, from Hanes Taliesin, dates from the later period, at least in terms of when it was written down.
To my eyes, it almost sounds nationalist,
Simply put, well, it is. The Britons, later divided into Welsh, Cornish, Bretons and Cumbrians/People of the Old North, were generally speaking pretty aggrieved with what they perceived as Anglo-Saxon treachery, and theft at sword point of their lands. Furthermore, during the early period, the Britons/Romano-Britons were Christians and the Anglo-Saxons were not – adding all the more to the hostility. Needless to say, the feelings of mutual dislike – at least at a socio-political level – were fairly strong and fairly mutual. These were warring, tribal societies of the Middle Ages, warrior societies with notions of divine kingship and immortality through fame. In terms of the aristocracy – warrior elites – the ethos was along the lines of live fast, die gloriously, and leave a good sounding poem! Now, it wasn’t all swords, castles, and fighting, but a big part of it was, and that’s what you’ll often see reflected in the literature of this period.
As an extra note, the Cymry are the ‘compatriots’. The Cornish are the Kernowyon, Cornovians, Cornwall – West Wales or the land of the Cornubian Welsh. The Bretons are Britons. The word Welsh, on the other hand, comes from an Anglo-Saxon word for ‘foreigners’ or ‘strangers’ and, at various periods in history, had pejorative senses.
Anyway, I hope that helps a little.
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