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  • #12037
    Startree
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    Corn moon Wednesday September 2, moon in pisces, full moon

    #12039
    david poole
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    Thank you Startree, I am already looking forward to it. Why is it a Corn Moon?

    #12042
    Dowrgi
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    Why is it a Corn Moon?

    I believe that these names for lunar names come from North American folklore and were greatly popularised in print by North American farmer’s almanacs. I also believe that at least some of them may derive from Native American traditions.

    The name itself makes sense in the Northern Hemisphere with September’s being a time of harvesting. In Celtic languages, there is the Scots Gaelic for September, which is An t-Sultain – the “fattening month”, whereas Irish has Mí Meán Fomhair. Welsh has Medi, the “month of reaping” and Cornish and Breton have Mis Gwynngala and Gwengolo – the “white hay/straw month” – respectively. All of these names are obviously connected to the seasons and agriculture. Interestingly, the Coligny Calendar may indicate Anagantio for September (roughly) and it has been suggested that this means “non-travelling” month, which would make sense if people were busy with the harvest and gathering in the crops before winter.

    Bennathow
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    #12044
    david poole
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    I was wondering about the nature of the name, given that we are already past Lughnasadh it seems unusual to be marking the corn. Thank you for that explanation. I wonder if the name will become more relevant in the run up to the autumn equinox?

    #12045
    Dowrgi
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    Morning David,

    From my ongoing research with Celtic calendars, something we mentioned a while back, I’ve discovered how difficult it is when dealing with calendars! 😀

    Lunar and solar calendars obviously don’t correspond and need to be “calibrated” using mathematical formulae, attesting to how sophisticated ancient peoples’ knowledge of some form of mathematics must have been in order to construct some of the megalithic sites that exist and seem to correspond to both lunar and solar years. From looking at the Scots Gaelic traditional calendar, it seems that months were less fixed than we would imagine today and depended also on weather signs and seasonal changes – the months themselves also had sub-periods or divisions depending on the prevailing winds and weather. On the one hand it teaches us how much peoples of the past seem to have been far more in tune with nature and natural cycles, whereas on the other it makes it quite difficult to equate these calendars with our modern “fixed” view of the cycles of time.

    Bennathow
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    #12049
    david poole
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    I find it ironic that there has sometimes been talk of cultural appropriation of Native American culture and how we should not do this; all of a sudden, things have now changed and we are drawing aspects of our own beliefs from Native Americans. Which is right? Is it really avoidable or right to avoid the introduction of Native American practices into our own?

    #12050
    Dowrgi
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    Morning David,

    I don’t know enough about these North American lunar names to comment, however, I have noticed them being used more often in the UK in recent years.

    This really is a complex subject, however, I think that we should recognise the difference between cultural appreciation, i.e. learning from and acknowledging different cultures and celebrating human beings’ rich heritage, and cultural appropriation which does nothing of the sort, i.e. the very phony, commercialised appropriation of another culture’s ideas, which does nothing to help the communities that birthed them and very often ends up being detrimental or even demeaning to them. As has been said before, Greywolf discusses this in the Bardic course materials.

    Bennathow
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    #12053
    Startree
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    I feel that the American Indians are really on to some stuff as far as spiritual healing goes, and I am glad that they still have culture in America. I feel sorry for the blacks in America because they have replaced their culture with white culture, and this has Made them sick, trying to be white. and I am talking about a lot more than rap music. if you are white in America there are many neighborhoods where you can not go because you will get killed in those neighborhoods.
    And there are many neighborhoods where whites can not live. Still, under all this, the old black gods and goddesses are very much alive, and voodoo is very real in America. This is a strange land of many different gods and goddesses, and a land that was stolen from the Indians. at least the Indians had a spiritual respect for the spirit of the land. I don’t want to steal the culture of the Indians, I just want to learn from them in a respectful way about healing and how to live in harmony with the earth. I love everyone, except assholes.

    #12054
    Startree
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    it might be important that we all start making ethical choices when we buy stuff.

    #12065
    david poole
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    “Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish been caught, and the last stream poisoned, will we realize we cannot eat money.”

    ― Cree Indian Prophecy

    This has always been one of my favourite sayings, and it comes from the Native Americans.

    #12080
    Startree
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    Hi David, that is a pretty scary cree Indian prophecy, I hope it never gets that bad. but the cree probably were mad about all their land being stolen by survey. I have a difficult time trying to understand what people were thinking in being slavers and just taking land. Our ancestors back then must have had some weird views on human rights. Overall, it just seems they were living in a completely fucked up society. And what also is weird is that the rich will survive the future and have already made plans for the rising water. wealthy people are already buying land in places like the Colorado mountains. and countries like china just ignore human rights and are still able to trade globally, which is insane. So, as artist and druids and writers I feel it is our responsibly to try to use our skills to speak out. Oh, I have a druid writer you might want to check out. This guy died in 2010, but he was a Celtic language teacher in New York, and wrote two books on druidry.
    The Apple Branch: A Path to Celtic Ritual Paperback – July 1, 2003
    by Alexei Kondratiev , and he wrote another book also. I also am getting the The Celtic Seers’ Source Book: Vision and Magic in the Druid Tradition
    Matthews, John and I am trying to document where I saw the druid prophecy about where they talk about the water coming up into lochs in Scotland. The druids were the seers of the tribes and they could well have seen into the future, all the way into our time. And about money, I don’t really think any of the money has much value anymore because of all the world debt, and the money is based on completely false and imaginative wealth that does not even exist. the whole thing is made up by the bankers. Plus the food that we do get from the corporations can be pretty bad and is all genetic monster food. the fact is, when the perma frost starts melting like it is now, there is probably no way back, and Greenland is going into the drink. Just think what it will be like when the water level rises 16 feet. If Biden wins the election in the USA, things might start towards the right path, and as it is now what happens in the USA really affects the whole world. However, the spiritual comes and goes and is very mystical. at best, all we can do is give the Celtic Otherworld and invitation to communicate with us. There is a lot of healing and magic, the question is, is how to open up the doors to it. I do feel druids need to make a sacred connection to the spirit of the earth at least 8 times a year. we need to start to find ways and paths back to the sacred connection we have with nature and the Celtic Otherworld. I feel druids hear a call to druidry, and that is why we are so into it. Best William

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