Bobcat’s Book ‘Living With Honor’

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    Dave TheDruid-3X3

    Onn Page #19 of Chapter one, Bobcat states:
    “Within modern Paganism as it was in the past: each individual is encouraged to find their own specialist interests and skills, then to feed that insight back into the community as a whole”.

    Bobcat gave that sort of encouragement during 2010’s Winter Solstice when she asked me if I would like to write an E-Book about the Sacred Triads of Knowledge & Wisdom, which resulted in my E-Book “A Treasury Of Druistic Triads”, which I then made available Free For All.


    david poole

    I have just finished reading Bobcat’s excellent book, it has provided me with a host of new ideas which I had never conceived of before. Firstly, I have just been reminded of Lyall Watson’s Supernature and Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring, both of which I should get around to reading and both of which deserve to be in the Order’s reading library, from what I can gather of them. Painism another new idea which I had not heard of before, this is the idea that life is about avoiding pain, either in suffering it or in inflicting it, which could from the basis of a whole path within itself or be a supplement for another path such as Druidry or Humanism, which are not quite the same thing by any means. I think that there is a certain nobility to this path, but of course it does not have any specific parameters apart from an it harm none, to paraphrase Wicca (there is no hint of hedonism contained within painism, which does not advocate free will in and of itself). Bobcast is very strong and determined on other values, she is a very moral person, perhaps a little dictatorial if you were to try to implement all of these philosophies; her book is heavy with guidelines, which may be intimidating to some although I found it all to be fascinating. Animal cruelty and exploitation and society’s role within this is discussed frequently and at length, more so than most other subjects. There is a certain amount of sadness and resolve to some of her accounts, such as in the splitting up of a partnership, which was very affecting for me. @3 x3 triads are a very important part of OBOD’s Bardic Grade course, I have recently noticed something similar to what you mentioned at the beginning with the triad of loyalty, courage and generosity, albeit worded somewhat differently. Note also a comparison with the heathen values of the Nine Noble Virtues; note also that I have encountered some scepticism over this list of virtues, with some people disputing that they are authentically based on history; I think that the Nine Noble Virtues may be a modern invention rather than an ancestral practice, therefore they are admirable as a code for living but not historically authentic and not part of our ancestor’s beliefs.


    Hi David,

    That’s an interesting review and there’s plenty of food for thought in there.

    As for our ancestor’s values, it is a difficult one because they didn’t write anything down. When our ancestors were hunter-gatherers, I am sure that basic logic would determine that they respected the forest, the sea and the land because they knew that they could not survive without them. When our ancestors moved on to agriculture, they would have respected the land and looked after their livestock, again in full knowledge of how their lives depended on it. I think family bonds, friendship and the very basic idea of trying to be good to other people would have resonated just as much with them and that these are fairly universal. However, it’s with the emergence of more intensive agriculture, city states and the coming of iron that things seem to start going wrong: you start getting increased aggression, warrior societies, class/caste systems, slavery and oppression – materialism set in, the idea of owning the land, of “owning” people even. I think we need to go back to the earlier values and that we don’t necessarily need to find them carved in stone somewhere to get to them, nevertheless, in today’s world it is indeed a great challenge. I’m not saying that we should, or even could, return to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, but I do think modern society needs to give up its attachment to material wealth all the time; to my way of thinking, it’s telling that many spiritual traditions including the dharmic paths of the sadhus, the Christian monks and the holy ascetics from around the world usually give up or renounce everything before they go on their spiritual journey. I believe there’s a lesson in that for all of us.


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