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    Hello again Raven.

    Thanks for your sincere reply. The trouble with this is, of course, how can we ever perceive what is beyond our perception? It’s paradoxical. On the other hand, I like to think that our perception is limited and therefore we humans do not have the last word, so to speak. Biology teaches us that, for example, sharks can sense electromagnetic fields that we didn’t even know existed until relatively recently; dogs have a sense of smell that makes ours seem negligible and cetaceans have a complex system of sonar that must make their world seem a very different place to ours. In addition, ideas that would have been scorned thirty or forty years ago regarding the consciousness of plants are now given more serious scientific consideration.

    Any spiritual experience, altered state of consciousness is indeed subjective and, allow me to be a bit subjective myself here, a good spiritual worker and bona fide spiritual leader should tell you not to take their word for it, you need to experience it yourself. However, I’m always left with the nagging doubt of how much we perceive now is “real” – how do we know that our waking hours are not in fact dreams and our dreaming hours are not in fact when we’re awake?

    I like to avoid the word supernatural, because I think that the whole universe is natural and what we call supernatural is just that for which we have not achieved a high enough level of consciousness and knowledge to understand. To use another old analogy, the technology and knowledge we have today would have seemed like powerful magic just a couple of hundred years ago, perhaps with serious consequences too! So, if elves exist, for instance, they are natural, they’re just not in our realm of perception in the same way that we can see colours that dogs can’t, but dogs can smell things that we can’t – if you follow me? I also feel that ancient peoples and cultures may have understood a thing or two more than we credit them for, however, they looked at things in a different way and described them in a different way – something that is often lost on us today; an example of this could be they myths and legends that actually explain truths or physical realities of astronomy or the cycles of the year or that many divinity names are in actual fact epithets expressing thought-forms. We seem to be far more literal in our interpretation of their more abstract notions.

    Anyway, this is a very deep and philosophical discussion and I agree, it would be an interesting thread. Perhaps you’d like to open it?